14th April 1984

Steam Locomotive Operators Association
The Cumbrian Mountain Express
(Southbound)

Locos Used 86314, 86317 & steam: 13809 & 34092 'City of Wells'
Stock Used booked for load 12 (13 on steam sections - added to rear at Carlisle, removed from front at Carnforth)

Route : 1L41 throughout

Loco Route
86314 London Euston - (via WCML, Weedon & Trent Valley) - Carlisle
34092 Carlisle - Petteril Bridge Jn - (via S&C) - Settle Jn - Hellifield
13809 Hellifield - Settle Jn - Wennington - Carnforth
86317 Carnforth - (reverse of outward route) - Stafford - Wolverhampton - Dudley Port - Soho South Jn - Birmingham New Street - Proof House Jn - Stechford - Birmingham International - Coventry - Rugby - (via WCML, Weedon) - London Euston

Notes :
(1) S.L.O.A. tour booking code for this tour was 'C13'. Route confirmation required - above is from booked timings. Connections were available from (and back to) many stations using service trains and this was included in the ticket price paid (see full listing below).

Sources : Ian McDonald & John Debens

Photo Review


13809 arriving into Carnforth from Hellifield (photo: Richard Bull)

 
Ian McDonald's ticket - this
required use of connecting
services to & from Crewe.		   Another example of a ticket
from a connecting station.
From The John Debens
Ticket Collection.


Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from Ian McDonald & John Debens)

Miles Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual Miles
0.0 Euston 07.50d ?   20.57a ? 648.1
5.4 Willesden Junction 07/57 ?   20/49 ? 642.7
17.4 Watford Junction 08.05a ~ 08.06d ?   20.35a ~ 20.36d ? 630.7
46.7 Bletchley 08/27 ?   20/14 ? 601.4
82.6 Rugby 08/52½ ?   19/43½ ? 565.5
- Coventry   19/33½ ? 554.0
- Birmingham New Street   19.09½a ~ 19.16d 19.18 ~ ??.?? 534.8
- Dudley Port   19/02 19/04 527.6
- Wolverhampton   18/54 18/56 522.0
97.0 Nuneaton 09/02½ ?  
116.3 Lichfield TV 09/15 ?  
133.5 Stafford 09/29 ?   18/37 18/43 506.8
158.1 Crewe 09.50a ~ 09.52d ??.?? ~ 09.54   18.14½a ~ 18.17½d 18.19 ~ 18.21 482.2
174.4 Weaver Jn 10/06 ?   17/57½ 18/04 466.0
182.2 Warrington Bank Quay 10/11½ ?   ? ? ?
193.9 Wigan North Western 10/20 ?   17/43½ 17/50 446.4
209.0 Preston 10.36a ~ 10.38d 10.39 ~ 10.44   17.29a ~ 17.31d 17.35 ~ 17.37 431.3
230.0 Lancaster 10/54½ 11/00   17/09 17/13 410.3
236.3 Carnforth 10/59 11/05   16L52a ~ 17L02d 16.56 ~ 17.06 404.0

 

Miles Location Booked Actual
262.1 Tebay 11/18½ 11/22
279.9 Penrith 11/33 11/36
299.1 Carlisle 11L51a ~ 12L05d 11.50 ~ 12.07
300.0 Petteril Bridge Jn 12/08 12/11
328.9 Appleby 13w00a ~ 13w30d 12.57 ~ 13.50
347.4 Ais Gill 14/05 14/21
350.5 Garsdale 14w10a ~ 14w40d 14.24 ~ 14.46
358.6 Blea Moor 14/53 14/59
372.6 Settle Jn 15/26 15/24
375.9 Hellifield 15L35a ~ 16L02d 15.33 ~ 16.04
379.2 Settle Jn 16/10 16/14
394.3 Wennington 16/35 16/38
403.6 Carnforth East Jn 16/50 16/54

Timings continue in first table.

Service Train Connections
(from John Debens)

Location Outward Connection   Return Connection
Booked To Booked   Booked From Booked
Abergavenny 06.12d Crewe 08.39a   19.30d Crewe 22.05a
Barrow-in-Furness 08.22d Preston 09.45a   17.53d Carnforth 18.49a
Bangor 06.40d Crewe 08.34a   18.18d Crewe to Chester 18.43a
  19.03d Chester 20.37a
Birmingham New Street 08.07d Crewe 09.06a   -

no connection needed

 -
Birmingham International 07.27d Birmingham New Street 07.45a  
08.07d Birmingham New Street to Crewe 09.06a   19.21d Birmingham New Street 19.38a
Bristol Temple Meads 06.05d Birmingham New Street 07.45a  
08.07d Birmingham New Street to Crewe 09.06a   19.35d Birmingham New Street 21.21a
Bristol Parkway 06.15d Birmingham New Street 07.45a  
08.07d Birmingham New Street to Crewe 09.06a   19.35d Birmingham New Street 21.06a
Cardiff 05.32d Crewe 08.39a   19.30d Crewe 22.52a
Carlisle - no connection needed -   18.32d Preston 19.59a
Carnforth 09.11d Preston 09.45a   -

no connection needed

 -
Cheltenham Spa 07.01d Birmingham New Street 07.45  
08.07d Birmingham New Street to Crewe 09.06a   19.35d Birmingham New Street 20.17a
Chester 08.05d Crewe 08.34a   18.18d Crewe 18.43a
Coventry 07.09d Birmingham New Street 07.45a  
08.07d Birmingham New Street to Crewe 09.06a   19.21d Birmingham New Street 20.00a
Colne 08.42d Preston 09.46a   17.35d Preston 18.41a
Derby 08.17d Crewe 09.38a   18.30d Crewe 19.50a
Edinburgh 09.06d Carlisle 10.57a   19.47d Preston 22.41a
Hereford 06.39d Crewe 08.39a   19.30d Crewe 21.40a
Leeds 09.07d Carlisle 11.37a   17.48d Carnforth 19.40a
Leicester 07.30d Nuneaton 08.02a  
08.09d Nuneaton to Crewe 09.01a   20.18d Birmingham New Street 21.23a
Liverpool Lime Street 08.39d Crewe 09.25a   18.40d Crewe 19.23a
Manchester 09.15d Manchester Piccadilly to Preston 10.05a   17.45d Preston to Manchester Victoria 18.42a
Milton Keynes Central 07.30d Crewe 09.01a   18.55d Crewe to Rugby 19.54a
  20.14d Rugby 20.57a
Newport 05.45d Crewe 08.39a   19.30d Crewe 22.33a
Northampton 07.23d Rugby 07.45a   18.55d Crewe to Rugby 19.54a
07.56d Rugby to Crewe 09.01a   20.14d Rugby 20.36a
Nottingham 07.30d Crewe 09..38a   18.30d Crewe 20.36a
Nuneaton 08.09d Crewe 09.01a   20.18d Birmingham New Street 20.53a
Rugby 07.56d Crewe 09.01a   18.55d Crewe 19.54a
Shrewsbury 07.45d Crewe 08.39a   19.30d Crewe 20.22a
Skipton 09.45d Carlisle 11.37a   17.48d Carnforth 18.54a
Stockport 08.47d Crewe 09.29a   18.22d Crewe 19.03a
Stoke-on-Trent 09.08d Crewe 09.38a   18.30d Crewe 18.59a
Warrington Bank Quay 10.03d Preston 10.32a   17.47d Preston 18.12a
Wolverhampton 08.25d Crewe 09.06a   18.56d Crewe 19.35a


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