23rd November 1991

Pathfinder Tours
The Valiant Thunderer

Locos Used 37142, 47805, 47819, 50008 'Thunderer', 50015 'Valiant' & 50033 'Glorious'

Route : 1Z37 throughout

Loco(s) Route
47??? (6) Manchester Piccadilly - Stockport - Cheadle Hulme - Sandbach - Crewe - (via WCML) - Stafford - Wolverhampton - Portobello Jn - Bescot - Perry Barr North Jn - Asotn - Proof House Jn - Birmingham New Street - Selly Oak - King's Norton - Barnt Green - Stoke Works Jn - (via Spetchley) - Abbotswood Jn - Cheltenham Spa - Barnwood Jn - Gloucester Yard Jn - Syandish Jn - Yate - Westerleigh Jn - Bristol Parkway - Filton Jn - Stapleton Road - Bristol Temple Meads
50008 + 50015 Bristol Temple Meads - North Somerset Jn - Bath Spa - Westbury - Castle Cary - Taunton - Exeter St Davids - Newton Abbot - Paignton (5)
50008 + 50015 Paignton - Newton Abbot
37142 + 50015 + 50008 (2) Newton Abbot - Totnes - Plymouth
50033 (3) Plymouth - Liskeard - Par - Newquay
50008 + 50015 (4) Newquay - Par - Liskeard - Plymouth
50008 + 50015 + 50033 Plymouth - Totnes - Newton Abbot - Dawlish - Exeter St Davids - (reverse of outward route) - Bristol Temple Meads
47819 Bristol Temple Meads - (reverse of outward route) -  Manchester Piccadilly

Notes :
(1) Delayed journey to Plymouth due to re-marshalling 50008 & 50015 as 50015 had a defective speedo.
(2) 37142 was added as a pilot from Newton Abbot to Plymouth due to 50015 being the leading loco after the run-round at Newton Abbot.
(3) 50008 + 50015 on rear.
(4) 50033 on rear.
(5) Whilst at Paignton, 25185 (running as D7535) worked a Paignton to Kingswear return train in conjunction with the railtour. GWR Steam loco 7827 also operated.
(6) Originally uploaded as 47805 throughout from Manchester to Bristol however John Cassey recorded the outward loco (at least from Cheltenham Spa where he joined) as 47819; is 47805 an error or was it replaced somewhere en-route between Manchester and Cheltenham Spa, if so, where?

Sources : Gary Blyth (joined/left train at Birmingham New Street) with additional
information from Ian Dobson (from timing sheet), Phil Wood (on the train throughout)
& John Cassey (joined/left the train at Cheltenham Spa)

Photo Review


D7535 & 7827 on the P&DR (photos: John Cassey)


37142+50015+50008 at Newton Abbot (photo: John Cassey)


50033 on arrival into Newquay (photo: John Cassey)


50008+50015 waiting to leave Newquay (photo: John Cassey)


Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from Ian Dobson & John Cassey)

M.C Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual M.C
0.00 Manchester Piccadilly 00.30d 00.32   23.12a ? 176.09
5.70 Stockport 00.39a ~ 00.42d 00.43 ~ 00.46   23.02a ~ 23.03d ? 170.19
8.11 Cheadle Hulme 00/45 ?   22/58 ? 167.68
12.06 Wilmslow 00/49 ?   22/55 ? 164.03
26.21 Sandbach 01/00 ?   22/42 ? 149.68
30.71 Crewe 01.09a ~ 01.11d 01.15 ~ 01.19   22.32a ~ 22.34d ? 145.18
38.77 Madeley Jn 01/22 ?   22/22 ? 136.59
49.79 Norton Bridge 01/31 ?   22/13 ? 126.10
55.28 Stafford 01.36a ~ 01.38d 01.43 ~ 01.45   21*53a ~ 22*06d 22.36 ~ ???? 120.61
69.05 Bushbury Jn 01/55 ?   21/41 ? 104.07
70.59 Wolverhampton 01.58a ~ 02.00d 02.05 ~ 02.06   21.36a ~ 21.37d 22.17 ~ 22.18 105.30
72.43 Portobello Jn 02/05 ?   21/31 ? 103.46
76.60 Bescot Stadium 02/08 ?   21/25 ? 99.29
81.17 Perry Barr North Jn 02/14 ?   21/19 ? 94.72
83.39 Aston 02/17 ?   21/16 ? 92.50
86.15 Birmingham New Street 02.22a ~ 02.24d 02.30 ~ 02.36   21.08a ~ 21.10d 21.49 ~ 21.52 89.74
89.46 Selly Oak 02/32 ?   21/1 21/43 86.43
91.60 Kings Norton 02/34 ?   20/59 21/40 84.29
96.68 Barnt Green 02/40 ?   20/51 21/35 79.21
102.44 Stoke Works Jn 02/44 ?   20/40 ? 73.45
113.61 Abbotswood Jn 02/52 ?   20/31 ? 62.28
131.59 Cheltenham Spa 03.06a ~ 03.08d 03.25 ~ 03.27   20.13a ~ 20.15d 20.58 ~ 21.01 44.30
138.09 Gloucester Yard Jn 03/15 ?   20/05 20/50 38.00
144.19 Standish Jn 03/20 ?   19/57 20/42 31.70
165.57 Westerleigh Jn 03/38 ?   19/40 20/25 10.32
170.27 Bristol Parkway 03.44a ~ 03.46d 04.08 ~ 04.10   19.32a ~ 19.34d 20.15 ~ 20.17 5.62
174.46 Stapleton Road 03/51 ?   19/26 20/08½ 1.43
176.00 Bristol Temple Meads 03L55a 04.19   19L23d 20.05 0.00

 

M.C Location Booked Actual
0.00 Bristol Temple Meads 04L55d 04.54
0.60 North Somerset Jn 04/57 ?
11.35 Bath Spa 05/12 05/09
13.51 Bathampton Jn 05/16 ?
22.45 Bradford Jn 05/30 ?
27.52 Hawkeridge Jn 05/39 ?
28.17 Westbury 05/41 05/39
29.51 Fairwood Jn 05/43 ?
32.73 Clink Road Jn 05/47 ?
34.75 Blatchbridge Jn 05/49 ?
39.05 East Somerset Jn 05/53 ?
47.64 Castle Cary 06/02 ?
70.24 Cogload Jn 06/24 ?
75.27 Taunton 06/28 ?
89.41 Tiverton Loop 06/45 ?
104.67 Cowley Bridge Jn 06/59 ?
106.07 Exeter St Davids 07c01 ~ 07c03 07.06 ~ 07.07
116.49 Dawlish Warren 07/15 07/16
126.21 Newton Abbot 07/25 07/29
134.37
0.00		 Paignton 07.39a ~ 10.30d 07.45 ~ 10.49
8.16
0.00		 Newton Abbot 10.45a ~ 11.00d 11L03 ~ 11L28
? Dainton Tunnel 11/07 11/35
8.57 Totnes 11/13 11/41
21.13 Ivybridge 11/30 11/58
25.04 Hemerdon 11/36 12/03
30.29 Lipson Jn 11/43 12/09
31.69 Plymouth 11L45a ~ 12L10d 12.11 ~ 12.49
34.61 St Budeaux Jn 12/16 12/58
36.07 Saltash 12/19 13/01
41.05 St Germans 12/25 13/07
49.47 Liskeard 12/35 13/19
54.62 Largin S.B. 12/42 13/26
62.15 Lostwithiel 12/50 13/34
66.50 Par 12/55 13/39
67.00 St Blazey 12t57 ~ 13t01 13.43 ~ 13.47
72.24 Goonbarrow Jn 13t14 ~ 13t18 14.11 ~ 14.12
87.13
0.00		 Newquay 13.50a ~ 14.20d 14.45 ~ 15.17
14.49 Goonbarrow Jn 14t53 ~ 14t57 15/58
20.13 St Blazey 15t10 ~ 15t14 16.16 ~ 16.20
20.43 Par 15/17 16/23
24.78 Lostwithiel 15/52 16/28
32.31 Largin S.B. 15/30 16/36
37.56 Liskeard 15/36 16/42
46.08 St Germans 15/45 16/51
51.06 Saltash 15/54 17/04
52.32 St Budeaux Jn 15/58 17/08
55.24 Plymouth 16L03a ~ 16L43d 17.14 ~ 17.42
56.64 Lipson Jn 16/46 17/46½
62.09 Hemerdon 16/53 17/53
66.00 Ivybridge 16/58 17/58
78.36 Totnes 17/11 18/10
? Dainton Tunnel 17/17 18/15½
87.13 Newton Abbot 17/22 18/20
96.65 Dawlish Warren 17/33 18/29½
107.27 Exeter St Davids 17/44 18/42
108.47 Cowley Bridge Jn 17/45 18/43
123.73 Tiverton Loop 17/59 18/56
138.07 Taunton 18/16 19/06
143.10 Cogload Jn 18/21 19/10
149.52 Bridgwater 18/28 19/15
155.74 Highbridge 18/34 19/19
163.15 Uphill Jn 18/41 19/24
166.08 Worle Jn 18/44 19/26
170.71 Yatton 18/49 19/29
182.73 Bristol Temple Meads 19L03a 19.42

Timings continue in first table.

P&DR Workings;

Loco D7535   7827
Location Booked (out) Booked (rtn)   Booked (out) Booked (rtn)
Paignton Queens Park 08.00d 09.05a   09.15d 10.20a
Kingswear 08.25a 08.40d   09.40a 09.55d


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