5th May 1957

Stephenson Locomotive Society (North West Area) / Manchester Locomotive Society
Caernarvonshire Rail Tour

Locos Used 42356 & 42366
Stock Used [1] : 5x LMS coaches (2x twin sets & Cafeteria Car)
[2] : unsprung steel slate tubs
Horses Used 'Prince' & 'Queen'

Route : reporting code W600 throughout
(except on Nantlle Tramway)

Loco(s) Stock Route
42356 & 42366 (2) [1] Bangor - Bethesda Jn - Tregath - Bethesda
42356 & 42366 (2) [1] Bethesda - Tregath - Bethesda Jn - Bangor
42366 [1] Bangor - Menai Bridge - Port Dinorwic - Caernarvon - Caernarvon No.1 Jn - Llanberis Jn - Groesion - Penygroes - Nantlle
(horse-drawn - 'Prince' & 'Queen') [2] (3) Nantlle - ?Nantlle Quarry?
(horse-drawn - 'Prince' & 'Queen') [2] ?Nantlle Quarry? - Nantlle (3)
42366 [1] Nantlle - Penygroes - Groesion - Llanberis Jn - Caernarvon
42366 [1] Caernarvon - Llanberis Jn - Pont Rug - Llanberis (4)
42366 [1] Llanberis - Pont Rug - Llanberis Jn - Caernarvon No.1 Jn - Caernarvon - Port Dinorwic - Menai Bridge
42366 [1] Menai Bridge - Britannia Bridge (5) - Llanfair
42366 [1] Llanfair - Britannia Bridge - Menai Bridge - Bangor

Notes :
(1) Route confirmation required - the tour stock to and from Manchester Exchange ran as a public excursion.
(2) Train engine was 42366 with 42356 'assisting' on the Bethesda branch - was that double-headed or top-n-tail (reports say the loco was needed for the reversal at Bethesda as the track at the station was lifted and the loop too long for the train)? Photographic evidence below suggests the pair were double-headed at least in one direction.
(3) On the Nantlle Tramway (3' 6" gauge) it is reported the ensemble went 'about mile up the line, and back'. An SLS report also commented that 'the motive power on this line was provided under contract from a local farmer' and there was 'an unexpected climax on the return to Nantlle when a sudden burst of speed on the part of the m.p.d. (perhaps stimulated by snacks of sugar administered by certain ladies) succeeded in derailing almost the whole train, fortunately without ill effects to man or beast'.
(4) Passengers made a visit to the Snowdon Mountain Railway shed at Llanberis, though no journey on the line was made due to time constraints.
(5) Train stopped 'on the Caernarvonshire side of the Britannia Bridge at a point close to the station of the same name (open 1851-1858 only) to allow participants to alight there and inspect the bridge (the more energetic apparently reaching the top of the bridge towers!).

Sources : Peter Darke, Chris Harley & Ian Clark (SLS)

Photo Review


42356 & 42366 at Bethesda (photo: The Mike Morant Collection)


From The John Debens Ticket Collection.


Timings (Booked Only)
(from Ian Clark (SLS))

Public Excursion

Location Booked (out) Booked (rtn)
Manchester Exchange 09.35d 22.03a
Eccles ??.??a ~ 09.45d 21.52a ~ ??.??d
Chester General 10.35a ~ 10.40d 20.53a ~ ??.??d
Colwyn Bay 11.32a ~ ??.??d ??.??a ~ 20.07d
Llandudno Junction ??.??a ~ ??.??d ??.??a ~ ??.??d
Conway ??.??a ~ ??.??d ??.??a ~ ??.??d
Penmaenmawr ??.??a ~ ??.??d ??.??a ~ ??.??d
Llanfairfechan 12.03  (?a or d?) 19.40 (?a or d?)
Bangor 12.14a 19.30d

S.L.S. Tour

Location Booked
Bangor 12.45d
Bethesda 13.05a ~ 13.30d
Nantlle 14.35a ~ 15.20d
Llanberis 16.30a ~ 17.00d
Britannia Bridge 17.58a ~ 18.40d
Bangor 18.45a


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