17th September 2024

West Coast Railways
The Dalesman

Locos Used 33029 & 47802
Stock Used 9493+6115+5961+6724+3326+3395+3431+1961+3352+3392

Route : 
1Z56 : Chester to Carlisle
1Z57 : Carlisle to Chester

Loco(s) Route
47802 (1) Chester - Mickle Trafford - Helsby - Frodsham - Runcorn East - Acton Grange Jn - Warrington Bank Quay - Wigan North Western - Leyland - Preston
33029 (2) Preston - Farington Curve Jn - Lostock Hall Jn - Blackburn - Clitheroe - Hellifield [Goods Loop] - Settle Jn - (via S&C) - Petteril Bridge Jn - Carlisle
47802 (1) Carlisle - (via WCML) - Preston - (reverse of outward route) - Chester

Notes : 
(1) 33029 on rear.
(2) 47802 on rear.
(3) This tour was booked to be steam hauled by 34067 'Tangmere' between Hellifield, Carlisle and Carnforth. However the tour was diesel hauled throughout due to the failure of the steam loco.

Source : Nick Bartlett

Timings (Booked & Actual)
(from Realtime Trains)

Location Booked Actual   Booked Actual
Chester 07.30d [P3] 07.35   19.25a [P4] 19.25
Mickle Trafford 07/36 07/40   19/18 19/19
Helsby 07/40 [P2] 07/45   19/08 [P1] 19/13
Frodsham 07.44a ~ 07.47d [P2] ? ~ 07.51   18.59a ~ 19.04d [P1] 19.06 ~ ?
Frodsham Jn 07/50 07/53   18/57 19/01
Runcorn East 07/52 [P2] 07/55   18/54 [P1] 18/59
Acton Grange Jn 07/56 [DF] 07/58   18/50 18/55
Walton Old Jn - -   18/48 ?
Warrington Bank Quay 08.00a ~ 08.04d [P4] 08.01 ~ 08.06 [P3]   18.43a ~ 18.45d [P1] [OL] 18.42 ~ 18.50
Dallam Jn 08/08 08/07   18/41 18/39
Winwick Jn 08/11 08/11   18/34½ [US] 18/34
Golborne Jn 08/14½ 08/14   18/31 18/27
Springs Branch Jn 08/19 08/18   18/27½ 18/24
Wigan South Jn 08/20 08/19   18/27 18/23
Wigan North Western 08.21a ~ 08.23d [P5] 08.20 ~ 08.22   18.23a ~ 18.25d [P4] 18.19 ~ 18.22
Balshaw Lane 08/33 [DS] 08/31   18/16 18/08
Euxton Jn 08/35 08/34   17/54 17/47
Leyland 08.38a ~ 08.40d [P3] 08.35 ~ 08.40   17.46a ~ 17.50d [P2] 17.40 ~ 17.45
Farington Curve Jn 08/43½ 08/43   17/43 17/36
Ribble Jn 08/48 [DS] 08/47   17/41½ [US] 17/34
Preston 08.50a ~ 09.05d [P1] [DS] 08.49 ~ 09.05 [P1]   17.23a ~ 17.40d [P5] [UF] 17.23 ~ 17.33

 

Location Booked Actual
Ribble Jn 09/06½ [US] 09/06
Farington Curve Jn 09/08½ 09/10
Lostock Hall Jn 09/12 09/13
Blackburn 09/25 [P2] 09/25
Daisyfield Jn 09/26 09/27
Langho 09/34 [P2] ?
Clitheroe 09/43 [P2] 09/43
Horrocksford Jn 09/44 ?
Hellifield 10/03 10/03
Hellifield [Goods Loops] 10L05 ~ 10L30 [DGL] 10.05 ~ 10.24
Settle Jn 10/40 10/34
Helwith Bridge 10/52½ ?
Horton-in-Ribblesdale 10/56½ [P2] ?
Ribblehead 11/08 [P2] 10/56
Blea Moor 11/12 11/00
Garsdale 11/23 11/12
Ais Gill Summit 11/27 ?
Mallerstang 11/31½ ?
Kirkby Stephen 11/36 [P2] 11/25
Crosby Garrett 11/39 ?
Ormside 11/46 ?
Appleby 11/48½ 11/39
Kirkby Thore SB 11/54½ 11/44
Culgaith SB 11/57½ 11/47
Langwathby 12w02 ~ 12w12 ?
Lazonby & Kirkoswald 12/17½ ?
Low House Crossing SB 12/24½ 12/08
Howe & Co Sidings 12/28½ 12/12
Petteril Bridge Jn 12/35½ 12/18
London Road Jn 12/36½ 12/28
Carlisle 12.39a [P3] ~ 14.52d [P1] 12.30 [P3] ~ 14.53
Penrith North Lakes 15/24½ [P1] 15/12
Eden Valley 15/29 15/15
Shap Summit 15/37 15/22
Tebay 15/41½ 15/27
Grayrigg 15/47½ 15/32
Oxenholme Lake District 15/54 [P1] 15/37
Carnforth North Jn 16/11½ 15/52
Carnforth South Jn 16L13 ~ 16L57 [GL2] 15.54 ~ 16.57
Morecambe South Jn 17/01½ 17/02
Lancaster 17/03 [UF] 17/05 [UF]
Garstang & Catteral 17/12½ 17/13
Fylde Jn 17/21½ [UF] ?

Timings continue in first table.

Associated E.C.S. & Light Engine Workings

5Z54 : (34067 with support coach) : Carnforth to Hellifield (cancelled)

Location Booked
Carnforth Steamtown 07.40d
Carnforth H.S. 07.50 ~ 07.58
Carnforth  08.03 ~ 08.08
Wennington 08/26
Bentham 08/32
Giggleswick 08/50
Settle Jn 08/53
Hellifield [Goods Loop] 09.00a [UGL]

0Z56 : (Diesel loco) : Hellifield to Carnforth (cancelled)

Location Booked
Hellifield [Goods Loop] 10.10d [DGL]
Settle Jn 10/15
Giggleswick 10/17
Bentham 10/30
Wennington 10/34
Carnforth  10/47
Carnforth North Jn 10/51
Carnforth South Jn 10.53 ~ 10.58 [GL1]
Carnforth North Jn 11/02
Carnforth  11/03
Carnforth H.S. 11.05 ~ 11.11
Carnforth Steamtown 11.21a

5Z56 : (33029 with 47802 on rear) : Carlisle to Carlisle

Location Booked
Carlisle 12.43d [P3]
Carlisle Sig.CE335 12.44 ~ 12.46
Carlisle 12.48a [A]

5Z53 : (Diesel loco with 34067 on rear) : Carlisle to Petteril Bridge Jn
5Z53 : (34067 with diesel loco on rear) : Petteril Bridge Jn to Upperby Jn
5Z53 : (Diesel loco with 34067 on rear) : Upperby Jn to Carlisle
(whole train turned) (cancelled)

Location Booked
Carlisle 12.55d [A]
Carlisle Sig.CE335 12.57 ~ 12.59
Carlisle 13/01 [B]
London Road Jn 13/04
Petteril Bridge Jn 13.05 ~ 13.07
London Road Jn 13/10
Upperby Jn 13w15 ~ 14w13 [UTGL]
Carlisle 14.18a [A]

5Z57 : (47802 with 33029 on rear) : Carlisle to Carlisle

Location Booked
Carlisle 14.25d [A]
Carlisle Sig.CE291 14.27 ~ 14.30
Carlisle 14.32a [P1]


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